Cloth Physics System in 2.4.2

So much rage. You all do realise it isn't just 1 team that does everything right? Stuff gets released when it's ready. Don't expect the art and design team working on mtxs, to handle core architecture implementation and changes. Completely different issues and skillsets.

Yes, I know there are other issues too, especially at the start of a new league when a bunch of new mechanics get live tested on everyone's different hardware configurations. Can't really avoid that, and they do appear to try and resolve these issues as they come up. Want to help them out? Heres a thought, upgrade your toasters every few years. Maybe do a little research on what you buy, and how compatible the core components are with the software you plan on running. If you are running a handmedown refurbished ex demo steam kettle, taped to a bathroom mirror, modified to run on rechargeable batteries, don't play in a full party as a crit ice build that shatters everything on the screen and will fry the POS video card that is about to melt through your motherboard.

GGG have been "incrementally improving the visuals" since the beginning, and are likely to continue to do so. So as a player, you need to incrementally upgrade your hardware too. There are issues with game engine stability with certain chipsets, but that does not mean they should bench thier visuals team so you can run on your "gaming PC".

PCs are not consoles, smartphones or tablets, with set hardware specs that can be designed and coded around. If you have parts in your hardware that are known to have issues with partial effects or whatever, why is it always "GGG, pls fix your broken fucking game", and not "shit I know nothing about pc hardware because I have been spoonfed with consoles and smartphones for the last 10 years, and maybe I should have looked into things before buying the cheapest device I could find that can open Facebook and Twitter".

Yeah, triggered.

That being said, a lot of the rage WOULD probably disappear if there were more graphical options to adjust that just blanket AA, antriscopic and shadows. People will always try to play games on machines that aren't really up to it, and will always complain about it not working. So some potato settings, while pretty much negating all the hard work your visual team has been doing, may go a long way towards calming the masses. At least for a few days, until another self entitled Redditer can oversimplify an issue again, thus finding something new they can devote thier time to complaining about, and somehow, give thier life meaning again.

Still triggered...
~Not To Be Taken~
so with all the time and resources that went into making a (let's be honest with ourselves here) no-doubt buggy addition to the physics system--because i can already feel the screenshots of people's capes wigging out and striping the screen, or some weird enemy or environmental effect causing the cloth to move far more than it should for some unforseen reason, cascading into some sort of game crash via too-much-calculations/load--rather than putting those towards making the game more stable on the client- and server-side? or fixing the catastrophic armor bugs (or really any of the numerous other preexisting bugs)? polishing up animations already ingame (casting animation on blade flurry, really)?

that time could have been used for something useful and substantial for the game itself, instead of a means to get more RTX dollars and distract people with something flashy to get off your case.
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AndIMustMask wrote:
so with all the time and resources that went into making a (let's be honest with ourselves here) no-doubt buggy addition to the physics system--because i can already feel the screenshots of people's capes wigging out and striping the screen, or some weird enemy or environmental effect causing the cloth to move far more than it should for some unforseen reason, cascading into some sort of game crash via too-much-calculations/load--rather than putting those towards making the game more stable on the client- and server-side? or fixing the catastrophic armor bugs (or really any of the numerous other preexisting bugs)? polishing up animations already ingame (casting animation on blade flurry, really)?

that time could have been used for something useful and substantial for the game itself, instead of a means to get more RTX dollars and distract people with something flashy to get off your case.


Aaaannnddd this is the type of person i meant. /facepalm

Hey, guy, if you feel the game is so broken, and obviously unplayable, ask for a refund for all the $ you have spent. Oh. What's that? You haven't supported the company or game in any way? Not even an entry level supporter pack, for the development of the game?

It's OK, I understand. Clearly, being the talented magician you are, seeing into the future has taken so much of your attention, that you have had no time for anything else. Knowing how bad 3.0 will be, must be a heavy burden, but there are other likeminded parrots who can help. You can hold hands, cuddle puppies, sing motivational hymms, jerk each other off. After all, what happens on the line, stays on the line. Demand the attention seek, the thoughts you need validated, and the respect you deserve, because truely, YOUR opinion matters.

Your troll powers are sloppy, and have not yet developed enough to try using them outside of r/circlejerk.
~Not To Be Taken~
Last edited by Archerazor on Nov 16, 2016, 8:45:14 AM
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Archerazor wrote:
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AndIMustMask wrote:
so with all the time and resources that went into making a (let's be honest with ourselves here) no-doubt buggy addition to the physics system--because i can already feel the screenshots of people's capes wigging out and striping the screen, or some weird enemy or environmental effect causing the cloth to move far more than it should for some unforseen reason, cascading into some sort of game crash via too-much-calculations/load--rather than putting those towards making the game more stable on the client- and server-side? or fixing the catastrophic armor bugs (or really any of the numerous other preexisting bugs)? polishing up animations already ingame (casting animation on blade flurry, really)?

that time could have been used for something useful and substantial for the game itself, instead of a means to get more RTX dollars and distract people with something flashy to get off your case.


Aaaannnddd this is the type of person i meant. /facepalm

Hey, guy, if you feel the game is so broken, and obviously unplayable, ask for a refund for all the $ you have spent. Oh. What's that? You haven't supported the company or game in any way? Not even an entry level supporter pack, for the development of the game?

It's OK, I understand. Clearly, being the talented magician you are, seeing into the future has taken so much of your attention, that you have had no time for anything else. Knowing how bad 3.0 will be, must be a heavy burden, but there are other likeminded parrots who can help. You can hold hands, cuddle puppies, sing motivational hymms, jerk each other off. After all, what happens on the line, stays on the line. Demand the attention seek, the thoughts you need validated, and the respect you deserve, because truely, YOUR opinion matters.

Your troll powers are sloppy, and have not yet developed enough to try using them outside of r/circlejerk.


While I agree with the sentiment of "if all you're going to do is bitch, fuckoff and play something else", no visible tags != no support.

You can buy points without getting a pack, and you can turn off titles.
Support a free Hong Kong.

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Meanwhile, on less important news, BV and poison are still broken, and to combat poison we've made 2 guardians immune. BUT THE CLOTHS! ...
SSF, because Path of Trade RMTers and bots suck.
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Archerazor wrote:
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AndIMustMask wrote:
so with all the time and resources that went into making a (let's be honest with ourselves here) no-doubt buggy addition to the physics system--because i can already feel the screenshots of people's capes wigging out and striping the screen, or some weird enemy or environmental effect causing the cloth to move far more than it should for some unforseen reason, cascading into some sort of game crash via too-much-calculations/load--rather than putting those towards making the game more stable on the client- and server-side? or fixing the catastrophic armor bugs (or really any of the numerous other preexisting bugs)? polishing up animations already ingame (casting animation on blade flurry, really)?

that time could have been used for something useful and substantial for the game itself, instead of a means to get more RTX dollars and distract people with something flashy to get off your case.


Aaaannnddd this is the type of person i meant. /facepalm

Hey, guy, if you feel the game is so broken, and obviously unplayable, ask for a refund for all the $ you have spent. Oh. What's that? You haven't supported the company or game in any way? Not even an entry level supporter pack, for the development of the game?

It's OK, I understand. Clearly, being the talented magician you are, seeing into the future has taken so much of your attention, that you have had no time for anything else. Knowing how bad 3.0 will be, must be a heavy burden, but there are other likeminded parrots who can help. You can hold hands, cuddle puppies, sing motivational hymms, jerk each other off. After all, what happens on the line, stays on the line. Demand the attention seek, the thoughts you need validated, and the respect you deserve, because truely, YOUR opinion matters.

Your troll powers are sloppy, and have not yet developed enough to try using them outside of r/circlejerk.
see, the issue is that it isn't unplayable. It's quite enjoyable when those issues aren't rearing their ugly heads and keeping you from playing for their duration. I like the game, and want it to actually be a better game, not a graphical showcase at it's expense--especially with the issues still present in the game right now.

as for the assumption that because I don't have big shiny supporter tags under my name I don't support the game, how about YOU fuck off.
Already got my "Breachlord" pack haha

Also stocked up on more Mystery Boxes xD

Stahp making me want to spend money with these MTX's, GGG.

Or don't :)
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Archerazor wrote:
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AndIMustMask wrote:
so with all the time and resources that went into making a (let's be honest with ourselves here) no-doubt buggy addition to the physics system--because i can already feel the screenshots of people's capes wigging out and striping the screen, or some weird enemy or environmental effect causing the cloth to move far more than it should for some unforseen reason, cascading into some sort of game crash via too-much-calculations/load--rather than putting those towards making the game more stable on the client- and server-side? or fixing the catastrophic armor bugs (or really any of the numerous other preexisting bugs)? polishing up animations already ingame (casting animation on blade flurry, really)?

that time could have been used for something useful and substantial for the game itself, instead of a means to get more RTX dollars and distract people with something flashy to get off your case.


Aaaannnddd this is the type of person i meant. /facepalm

Hey, guy, if you feel the game is so broken, and obviously unplayable, ask for a refund for all the $ you have spent. Oh. What's that? You haven't supported the company or game in any way? Not even an entry level supporter pack, for the development of the game?

It's OK, I understand. Clearly, being the talented magician you are, seeing into the future has taken so much of your attention, that you have had no time for anything else. Knowing how bad 3.0 will be, must be a heavy burden, but there are other likeminded parrots who can help. You can hold hands, cuddle puppies, sing motivational hymms, jerk each other off. After all, what happens on the line, stays on the line. Demand the attention seek, the thoughts you need validated, and the respect you deserve, because truely, YOUR opinion matters.

Your troll powers are sloppy, and have not yet developed enough to try using them outside of r/circlejerk.


You are acting sarcastic and nasty, you have ignored every point that poster has made, you have failed to recognize that supporter tags are not always visible, and you have made the 100% non-defensible assumption that someone who has not paid money to GGG is unable to offer legitimate criticism.

Am I missing anything?
Farewell, fellow exiles. New hopes are on the horizon, and we may yet see a worthy successor to D2.
Is an in-house physics engine being used, or is it something like Havok or Bullet?
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