[3.11] CoC Ball Lightning Assassin - 20M+ Shaper DPS/10k ES/fortify - League Starter Guide Included

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ILIAS wrote:
So, because you crit more or less all the time you inflict shock all the time ok. But since our average hit is pretty low i dont think you shock more than the minimum possible amount, which is 5 %.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EwnQySc4RlRhRejrBxMPyX9vx9x90HcDRRA4srCvTuQ/edit?usp=sharing



That's definitively more than 5%, he's reasonable with 10 in his PoB.
Last edited by RoCKeTs on Apr 18, 2020, 3:20:29 PM
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ILIAS wrote:
Mhm, maybe I am wrong, but in your calculation you are applying shock. why?

Shock effectivness ranges from 5 % til 50 % increased damage taken.
Variables within these calculations are average hit (which is in best case i would say 250k fully buffed), enemy's ailment threshold, and the attacker's increases to the effect of shock (which is normally 0)


So, because you crit more or less all the time you inflict shock all the time ok. But since our average hit is pretty low i dont think you shock more than the minimum possible amount, which is 5 %.

So we would need like a total result 30 % shock effect on an enemy (which I guess is not possible to get with that build) to have more dps than having awakened elemental focus.


I guess we assume different targets. If you assume A8 Sirus as a target, the effectiveness of shock should be very close to 5% without increased shock effect stats. But most enemies have much lower life, so I put 10% shock effect. Anyway, against Sirus we get 25% more damage from our ascendancy, so my dps is higher than estimated in my PoB.

One of the reasons I avoid using elemental focus is that I want to sap enemies. I'm not sure how effective this ailment is, but I hope it's helping.

One thing you misunderstand about shock is that average hit damage does not directly determines the effectiveness of shock. Let's consider the following two buids:

build A: you have 50% chance to deal 2 damage and 50% chance to deal 100.
build B: you always deal 51 damage.

Both builds have the same average damage, but build A can inflict stronger shock. Thus, you should look at the maximum single hit damage to determine the effectiveness of shock.
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Einstein_Jnr wrote:
so I managed to get a 7.8k lvl 90. I am dying alot to shaper guardians, any way I can buff my defenses by some means? I am currently on the low-mid budget version. Using the watchers eye. Further upgrades to gear will take time cause I used up all ex.

Or I am just not dodging stuff as I am supposed to?

1. Are you sure your aps is lower than 7.56?
2. I think movement speed on your boots is very important to dodge enemy attacks.
Since sap is also determined by the wording up to 20% based on lightning damage i assume it is like other non damaging alments.

If you look into:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EwnQySc4RlRhRejrBxMPyX9vx9x90HcDRRA4srCvTuQ/edit?usp=sharing

and if you calucalte yourself with 10 % shock effect, i would also say around 10 % less damage taken by through sap.

but just a wild guess :D
Last edited by ILIAS on Apr 18, 2020, 4:39:17 PM
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Last edited by N0esy on Apr 18, 2020, 4:35:39 PM
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N0esy wrote:
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Einstein_Jnr wrote:
so I managed to get a 7.8k lvl 90. I am dying alot to shaper guardians, any way I can buff my defenses by some means? I am currently on the low-mid budget version. Using the watchers eye. Further upgrades to gear will take time cause I used up all ex.

Or I am just not dodging stuff as I am supposed to?

1. Are you sure your aps is lower than 7.56?
2. I think movement speed on your boots is very important to dodge enemy attacks.


Yea I removed the onslaught flask to make aps les than 7.56. I will try getting the movement speed on the boots!
Over-all the build feels good and I more-or-less understand how CoC works now.
Been working on the build for the last two or three days and leveled to 92. In general I'm very happy, but getting a suitable sceptre has turned out to be as hard as was warned.

Here's my gear atm:

Spoiler




My sceptre doesn't have any attack speed, which I tried to compensate by having a ring with 8%, cluster jewel with 8% and another jewel with 4%+6%. If (hopefully) my PoB is setup properly, I'm at 7.47 APS right now. Many of the other pieces of gear could be much better as well, but I'm comfortably running juiced t14-16 right now and dying very rarely, maybe every couple of levels to something stupid that was my fault.

The cluster jewel doesn't seem to work in PoB even though I'm using the fork so I added the AS to the ring.

Not sure if I'll upgrade the scepter next or focus on geting more ES and crit multiplier.

Edit. And about the cost. Approximately half of the total cost was that Watcher's eye alone, which cost me maybe 14ex.
Last edited by PeakPoE on Apr 18, 2020, 5:35:39 PM
Corrupt on gloves must be "+1 to socketed gems"? its for enlighten or for auras? ask bcouse take "+2 to aoe gems" corrupt
hi

I need to know if my configuration is ok and if i'm ok with Attack rate and CDR

can you enlighten me ?

My POB : https://pastebin.com/kdJAWVjW

Last edited by MacashPOE on Apr 18, 2020, 8:39:34 PM
Advice on build? only lvl 91 atm.. went for Int nodes for flat ES

Still a bit confused by this attack rating stuff.. should i get a belt with CDR on it?

Also how do you calculate dps?

https://pastebin.com/YuazB680
Last edited by Juststraightthuggin on Apr 19, 2020, 7:35:43 PM

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