[3.12]🏹 Poison Scourge Arrow / Toxic Rain + Blast Rain PF | Bottled Fortify | Ultra Tanky + High DPS

So question, what is the best way to increase DPS on scourge, I look at yours and I see like 13 mil when I take it off Sirus. Besides my helm and quiver I feel like my gear is pretty end game stuff and I'm sitting around 3.5 non Sirus and wondering what I'm doing wrong here. You have the most insane quiver of all time so I know that is a big part there, I'm not missing out on much other damage slots I see in your 95 Pastebin lineup. Here is a code:


https://pastebin.com/dxR2xHdM
IGN: Bonered
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Ghostboner wrote:
So question, what is the best way to increase DPS on scourge, I look at yours and I see like 13 mil when I take it off Sirus. Besides my helm and quiver I feel like my gear is pretty end game stuff and I'm sitting around 3.5 non Sirus and wondering what I'm doing wrong here. You have the most insane quiver of all time so I know that is a big part there, I'm not missing out on much other damage slots I see in your 95 Pastebin lineup. Here is a code:


https://pastebin.com/dxR2xHdM

Pastebin code does not work. You might need to generate another one, either by PoB or manually copy the raw code into pastebin[dot]com and give the link.


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1000Ilove wrote:

https://pastebin.com/pgME7TQB
Here's my take on the build. I'm still working out the kinks and min maxing it. I'm going to buy the despair gloves after I figure out how I want to apply wither (fenumus or Embalmers). Need Woke Gems Too. My problem is single target damage and in general lack of damage. I'm not sure what I directly need to upgrade, however?

I just take a look at your PoB. From what I see, your build is drastically different from mine, my friend. You have very different skill tree (thread of hope, skill path, etc.), different cluster jewels (not having any cluster suggested in my build), different socketed gems (malevolence, etc.).

If you don't follow my guide, I can only give you general advice, and please be informed that it may take longer for me to respond since I need to understand what you want to do with your build.

There are couple things that could be improved based on your PoB. First, you link withering touch with Scourge Arrow. I would not recommend that. Perhaps, try the gem setup I listed in the OP.

Second, you use Blast Rain + Withering touch on a 4-link boot, while Malevolence + Plague Bearer on your 6-link. I would swap out Malevolence and Plague Bearer. They are good but not the best choices for the build I suggest. Try Blast Rain on your 6-link as suggested in my OP.
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Ghostboner wrote:
So question, what is the best way to increase DPS on scourge, I look at yours and I see like 13 mil when I take it off Sirus. Besides my helm and quiver I feel like my gear is pretty end game stuff and I'm sitting around 3.5 non Sirus and wondering what I'm doing wrong here. You have the most insane quiver of all time so I know that is a big part there, I'm not missing out on much other damage slots I see in your 95 Pastebin lineup. Here is a code:


https://pastebin.com/dxR2xHdM


If you look at the guide PoB and untick "Are you focussed?" and untick Despair, you will see the DPS plummet.(No in "Is enemy a boss?")
I don't think focussed considers uptime and obviously curses are less effective vs bosses.
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Pastebin code does not work. You might need to generate another one, either by PoB or manually copy the raw code into pastebin[dot]com and give the link.


Here is a new one

https://pastebin.com/V4LKV7Jk


I'm just at the point where upgrades are becoming quite the investment so I want to get the most out of them. I have my final resistances coming from helmet improvements and possibly quiver and chest.


IGN: Bonered
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Ghostboner wrote:
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Pastebin code does not work. You might need to generate another one, either by PoB or manually copy the raw code into pastebin[dot]com and give the link.


Here is a new one

https://pastebin.com/V4LKV7Jk


I'm just at the point where upgrades are becoming quite the investment so I want to get the most out of them. I have my final resistances coming from helmet improvements and possibly quiver and chest.

Understood.

Just had a quick look at your PoB and character.

Currently, you have 97/100% hit chance. 100% would give you an additional 300k~400k sirus DPS. May want to squeeze some accuracy from here and there (quiver, jewel, etc.) if you can.

Coralito's increased poison duration not maxed out yet (but quite close).

You haven't got a method to maintain frenzy charge in bossfights, so DPS would drop a bit. But nothing to worry because, except Sirus AL8, other bosses spawn mobs during fights for you to refill frenzy charge via either Blood rage or your Amulet. Check Sirus as the enemy in PoB and make good use of 4-sec Focus.

You're in a good shape DPS-wise for someone who's only level 89. You're building up your character fast, man.

Edit: catalyst your Nostalgia ring for ++ chaos resist, too.
Poison Scourge Arrow/Toxic Rain + Blast Rain PF| Bottled Fortify:
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Last edited by WolfieNa on May 11, 2020, 11:28:33 AM
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McCr4nk wrote:
If you look at the guide PoB and untick "Are you focussed?" and untick Despair, you will see the DPS plummet.(No in "Is enemy a boss?")
I don't think focussed considers uptime and obviously curses are less effective vs bosses.
Tbh default POB counts "dps" in a silly way that extremely overvalues max duration of your poison stack.

Poison duration is not bad, since every time you have to dodge boss deadly abilities you want your poisons to tick on the boss and keep doing damage. So the focus mod that increases poison duration definitely helps.

However POB counts dps in a manner that if your poison duration is 30 seconds it counts as if you stood still 30 seconds and constantly attacked and had max amount of poisons you can stack in 30 seconds.

That's obviously many more poisons than if your poison duration is 10 seconds.

It's not super reliable unless you had a target dummy to shoot, not a boss that is moving, attacking, having immunity phases and whatnot.

Tbh I dunno why POB treats poison like this while most other stackable sources of damage are counted per application and you have to add them together yourself (try making rain of arrows build, or pure blast rain, or ballista totems, or toxic rain and pretty sure POB doesn't add all copies of the ability doing damage at the time and definitely doesn't scale total damage with duration of your ability).

TLDR: Poison duration mods inflate total POB damage. They're still good to have but not as crazy as POB suggests.
Been following your build and I can't help but wonder where all your DPS comes when I compare POB's. I know I'm only level 78, but it seems that I'll get minimal DPS from the tree after these levels. I know I'm missing a frenzy on hit chest, I just have to buy one at this point.

But my flasks don't seem to be as effective as yours? Is there something I'm not clicking on POB? It's my first time doing a poison build as well.

https://pastebin.com/yEecXX0V
Neat build, very well thought out!

Haven't played my PF this league but i'm leveling it atm, just to test some things vs uber hard content like you presented.

Might test focus craft, just not sure will it fit on the button bar xD

I just wouldn't agree on Wither totems. They are pretty fast and can inflict 15 stacks pretty much in 1-2s.
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Last edited by TorsteinTheFallen on May 12, 2020, 5:38:05 PM
Hey, quick update on my Scourge Arrow build.

I really don't do ANY damage. I can clear all trash and rares really easily however the moment I get to a single boss its a solid 20-30 seconds. Sirus was a 20 minute slugfest (A8). Any idea what I should do to increase my DPS?

https://pastebin.com/tLQezW6V
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Guytie wrote:
Been following your build and I can't help but wonder where all your DPS comes when I compare POB's. I know I'm only level 78, but it seems that I'll get minimal DPS from the tree after these levels. I know I'm missing a frenzy on hit chest, I just have to buy one at this point.

https://pastebin.com/yEecXX0V

You still need to up your gem level quite a bit. Grab awaken added chaos damage gems and level them up. They are pretty cheap right now (~5-10c a piece at level 1).

Also don't spec into Divine Flesh all too soon. Instead, use a Taste of Haste to have phys damage taken as cold and -20% cold damage taken. Grab a good ole body chest with Guatelitzi mod on it (super cheap). If you want eco, search for (corrupted) 6-link chest with life roll. Should be 20-50c and much better than Tabula.

Get a ring with despair curse on hit. It boosts your total DPS drastically and reliably in mobs fight. Although the end-game bosses have a special mod that makes your curse 66% less effective, having a curse on hit still improves your overall DPS quite a bit.

If you still struggle against single target, I'd suggest that you get +1 arrow on your quiver, so that you can for a V-shape pod formation that can shotgun the target more effectively. The PoB's DPS is nothing if you cannot maximize the number of thorn arrows hitting the target.

If you have problem with mana, you can use a Cinderswallow with the mod: 25% reduced mana cost of skills during flask effect. Keep your mods on the rings/amulets that -x mana until you get the chest with -15 mana cost of socketed skill.

Find a different place for your gems in the current gloves' socket since it increases your mana reservation. I socketed increased duration support on my gloves so that the spider's webs last much longer, and I don't have problem with mana. At your current stage, try to have less reserved mana is a priority.

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But my flasks don't seem to be as effective as yours? Is there something I'm not clicking on POB? It's my first time doing a poison build as well.

You have a subpar Hybrid flask that limits your life recovery. Get a hallowed hybrid flask instead. It should bump up your life recovery by at least three folds. See the new hybrid flask I include in the pob below. You can also craft a -x% mana cost during flask effect on the suffix to reduce mana consumption of scourge arrow.

With these in mind, I changed your PoB based on your current one a bit:
(note that I theory-crafted a Despair curse on hit on your current ring just for illustration. You should be able to find these ring fairly cheap this time of the league). You still have a 4 link wither totem. I think you want to have a performance comparison, so I just leave it as is.

https://pastebin.com/mYc5KsmA

(Again, pod positioning is important to maximize your DPS).
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