[3.12] Self-Curse EK Temporal Chains Occultist Mini Guide (Warning not budget friendly)




3.12 Heist Update 9/30
Spoiler


Video update 10/2
Gear and Bow crafting updated. 9/30

Judging from the patch notes the build survives. It's going to be much more costly this league getting it to delirium 5 level. We lose assassin's mark which is roughly 30-40% ish DPS. Right now I'm thinking the new setup will be full cold conversion running despair, frostbite, elemental weakness, and temporal chains as a 4 curse setup. Will update after a week or two when I get the build up and running.



Self curse I thought it was dead?
Spoiler

- Still works with either occultist ascendancy or Cospri's will. You require curses can apply through hexproof specifically. Whether this is intentional or not we will see come next major patch.

I did not discover this concept or build just tweaked the foundation of it.


Pro/Con
Spoiler


Pros:
Fastest mapper in the game
Thrives off harder maps
Can solo 5 way legion and delirium 5

Cons:
Budget
Lag
Requires a bossing character (cant kill sirus, shaper, elder, elder guardian maps)





Gameplay Video *3.12 update*
Spoiler


T18 3 inspired final build https://youtu.be/SymLcZ6LCCU
Heist T18 100% Del solo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT5SrTwwf2s

T16 Sextants Alc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szJa74WSMzo
T16 5 Delirium Beyond Sextant - https://youtu.be/szJa74WSMzo?t=93
T16 Minotaur Alc Average Map - https://youtu.be/szJa74WSMzo?t=213
Solo 5 Way Legion - https://youtu.be/szJa74WSMzo?t=341

T19 5 Delirium Everything Map - https://youtu.be/IHwrU_S3bdA



Gear/POB *3.12 update*
Spoiler


POB : https://pastebin.com/0KPGJbPd ( 2 inspired pure cold )
https://pastebin.com/QtQWHDDd ( 3 inspired fire/cold setup )
https://pastebin.com/gFRsTMhC ( 3 inspired cheaper setup ) *BEST IMO*




Note : Jewels are not shown here and are mandatory for the build. You can view on my profile or check out the path of building pastebin.


Gearing Options / Budget

Bow : Synth bow +1 support or 18% chance for spells deal double damage

Quiver : 20% phys convert to cold + multi + life. (pure cold version)
Signal fire corrupted with added as extra.

Chest : Explosion + additional curse vaal regalia Or frenzy charge on hit + explosion. If you have high strength curse clusters you can use an astral plate.

Glove's : Ideally despair/ele weakness + spell crit or despair + ele weakness. Single curse on gloves works fine to start out.

Rings : Whatever curse you don't have on gloves + frostbite curse ring. (cheaper option)
Circle of Anguish with herald buff effect / mana res and ele weakness/flammability curse implicit or no curse if your using frenzy chest.

Boots : 10% movement speed corrupt, 10% ms enchant or 16% cast and attack speed enchant.

Amulet Annointment : I prefer hexmaster to increase how long temporal debuff lasts on ourselves but its not required. Annihilation, skittering runes, no witness, freedom of movement and crystal skin are some interesting options to me. ( for cold setup only )
Magmatic Strikes for the fire setup.

Cluster Jewel : 25% increase effect, chaos resistance, ele resistance, dark discourse, whispers of death. Doesn't really need notables but increase effect is mandatory. Only required on 2 for fire setup.

Watchers eye : Hatred convert + hatred crit/precision multi. Can start with just a convert watchers eye.
Anger phys convert + Anger multi is an option for the fire setup.

Note: If you run dark discourse make sure you have a corrupted jewel with cannot be hindered.



Bow Crafting *3.12 update*
Spoiler



Step 1 : Get a synth base +1 support gems or % chance for spells to deal double damage.

Step 2 : Buy a dozen or more deafening essence of woe's and spam the bow until you hit t1/t2/t3 global crit multi or projectile speed.

Step 3 : Annul until you have proj speed or multi + spell damage alone. If you remove a desired mod go back to step 2.

Step 4 : Craft multi mod and cannot roll attack mods on the bow. At this point it should have spell damage/global crit multi or proj speed/mutlimod/cannot roll attack mods ( 3 suffix 1 prefix). Exalted orb the bow and it will now have +1 all gems.

Step 5 : Remove all crafted mods. Craft multi mod again and +2 support + 10% double damage.




Ethereal Knives Vs Blade Vortex Vs Wander *3.12 update*
Spoiler


Blade vortex does not scale with max projectile buffs and the requirement of getting close does not entice me. The benefit is the higher damage. Ek doesnt have as much kick without assassin's mark and this skill can easily deal a million+ whereas ek would be dealing about 300k.

Ethereal knives has the power of being a strong physical spell as well as being a projectile. It clears about as far as wander but has a much higher base damage.

Wander is probably stronger then both once it gets going but I think it has a much higher chance to die early on in a hard map like delirium 5 vs EK solo. The other drawback is the high price of Pdps wands vs crafting the spell bow.




FAQS *3.12 update*
Spoiler


-Q: Best way to craft the curse cluster jewels.
A: Buy an ilvl 84 6 passive curse cluster and chaos spam. Look for dark discourse, whispers of death, 25-35% increased effect of small nodes, resistances.

-Q: I'm crashing.
A: I've found that legion scarabs, legion sextants, and legions just in general in a map can cause a crash. I've stopped running it all together and replaced it with ambush scarab.

-Q: Curse effect needed to be capped.
A: You need 135% in-game tooltip curse effect modifier(under misc). After that you add 30% from the helm enchant and 10% from curse on hit which puts you at 175%. This is the temporal chains buff cap with solstice on.

-Q: Why can't I kill mobs in 5 delirium.
A: We lost assassin's mark, the damage is much lower then last patch. You have to kite early on with temporal chains and work to get the first couple of kills.

-Q: Best bosser to make as a second character.
A: Ball lightning miner is the cheapest however if you dislike mines spectre's is another cheap alternative. Unlimited budget Fire BV and golems are nice builds.

-Q: Best delirium map to fracture
A: Burial chambers with 5 blighted, area is influenced by elder, (but not elder guardian) and 35 quality. I personally prefer canyon map ran with elder scarab to go for elder bone helms ilvl 86+.



Have any questions/thoughts/improvements leave a post here or msg me in game.

IGN : @rusty_yikers
Discord : rusty#7560 (best way to contact me)

Last edited by Rustyy121 on Oct 20, 2020, 8:05:01 PM
Last bumped on Nov 25, 2020, 12:40:48 PM
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.

However, I have spent almost all my currency already in this build and got a small amount left. Can you please look at my setup and tell me if I need to get a new 'bow', 'helmet', 'armor', and 'rings'? Any details would be greatly appreciated.

I will be switching over to your tree, but here is my setup so far:

"
Prolegend wrote:
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.


Thanks for the post, we talked in game some.


Updated the guide with bow crafting section and T19 everything map under videos.
It is actually quite funny . But I also posted a similar Build guide to this without knowing this one existed. Mine has a similar idea but it utilizes zerphi's heart and inspired learning for a more budget friendly setup. You also go much faster with soul eater.
Thanks to OP for helping me in game and providing me very helpful details.
I have been able to craft all the pieces.

Went from this:
Spoiler

"
Prolegend wrote:
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.

However, I have spent almost all my currency already in this build and got a small amount left. Can you please look at my setup and tell me if I need to get a new 'bow', 'helmet', 'armor', and 'rings'? Any details would be greatly appreciated.

I will be switching over to your tree, but here is my setup so far:





To this (rares self crafted):
Spoiler


First of all thanks for your guide :)

Could you elaborate a bit more about stacking so much curse effectiveness? Isn't it capped anyway?

Why are you pushing for so much resistances? Are you trying to be ele weakness capped?

Thanks in advance
"
Prolegend wrote:
Thanks to OP for helping me in game and providing me very helpful details.
I have been able to craft all the pieces.

Went from this:
Spoiler

"
Prolegend wrote:
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.

However, I have spent almost all my currency already in this build and got a small amount left. Can you please look at my setup and tell me if I need to get a new 'bow', 'helmet', 'armor', and 'rings'? Any details would be greatly appreciated.

I will be switching over to your tree, but here is my setup so far:





To this (rares self crafted):
Spoiler





wow you made great improvements! id love to know how to craft the pieces myself. maybe Rustyy could add more crafting tips besides the bow? would love it!
Last edited by bahnschranke on Jul 21, 2020, 3:23:44 PM
"
Lezzar wrote:
First of all thanks for your guide :)

Could you elaborate a bit more about stacking so much curse effectiveness? Isn't it capped anyway?

Why are you pushing for so much resistances? Are you trying to be ele weakness capped?

Thanks in advance

I am not the guide , but basically how the temp chains cap works is that the expiry rate for buffs "debuff" is capped at 75%. Or 175% with solstice and 275% without solstice. Howevver for I think most if not all the other curses are not capped in anyway. So stacking more curse effectiveness is often just a really easy way to gain more damage (eg , assasin's mark will give you more dmg when you get more curse effectiveness) or more defense (eg if using enfeeble).
thank for the build , can i ask why your EK mana cost is 0 ??

i have problem with my mana cost T_T
"
altdiablo wrote:
thank for the build , can i ask why your EK mana cost is 0 ??

i have problem with my mana cost T_T


I probably shouldn't be answering for him, but he has Vaal Clarity, also if your having Mana issues grab Mind Drinker Notable.

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info